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Matt
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Dear Stockcharts fellowers,

may someone has an idea how to use the proper indicator and setting on Stockcharts:

I want to get the ratio lates Price divided by the 125 day simple moving average below in the indicator section:

$SYMBOL:$INDUSTRY

$SYMBOL:$SECTOR

$SYMBOL:$SPX

$INDUSTRY:$SPX

$SECTOR:$SPX

My objective is to get a measurable divided difference (with % or ratio ... <1, >1) and not a minus differenc (A minus in order to compare this.

May this example explains it:

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=MSFT&p=D&b=3&g=0&id=p57875691550

Thanks an best regards,

Matt

may someone has an idea how to use the proper indicator and setting on Stockcharts:

I want to get the ratio lates Price divided by the 125 day simple moving average below in the indicator section:

$SYMBOL:$INDUSTRY

$SYMBOL:$SECTOR

$SYMBOL:$SPX

$INDUSTRY:$SPX

$SECTOR:$SPX

My objective is to get a measurable divided difference (with % or ratio ... <1, >1) and not a minus differenc (A minus in order to compare this.

May this example explains it:

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=MSFT&p=D&b=3&g=0&id=p57875691550

Thanks an best regards,

Matt

## Comments

PPO expresses the difference between Price (expressed as ema(1,close)) and the EMA(125,close) as a per cent (ratio) of the of the ema(125,close).

NOTE: PPO uses ONLY emas, not smas. Unfortunately, you can't modify that.

( ema(1,close)-ema(125,close) )/ ema(125,close)

So PPO is a ratio, but it expresses the ratio differently, compared to the Price ratio indicator. Instead of using decimals when the result is less than one (ema 1 is below ema125), as Price does, PPO uses negative numbers, namely the difference between 1 and the ratio. Because it uses negative numbers, it has to use 0 as the base line. The ratio indicator uses 1 as the base line.

So, the PPO scale has positive and negative numbers, but if you think of the zero line in PPO as being the same as the 1.00 in the ratio indicators (which it is), then the negative numbers in PPO (say -10) are the same as 1.00 minus the (absolute value) of the negative number, so -10 could be expressed as .90, which would be comparable to the ratio numbers in the other indicators that are decimals smaller than 1.00, like .87, etc.

If the PPO number is positive, then you would put "add" 1.00" in front of it - so if PPO is 4.3, it would be 1.043 (you need the zero because 4.3 is really .043). If it is,say 12.2, it would 1.122, etc.

P.S. the third parameter, 1, has to be there, but we are not using it for your purpose. Normally, PPO is used with a Signal line (the third parameter), but for your purpose, we want it to be 1.

As you can see in my link

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=MSFT&p=D&b=3&g=0&id=p57875691550

My idea was to compare the five Index/Sector/Industry ratios below the chart in the indicator section with "Overlay" and "Parameters" in order to get more usable % Difference information for better comparision than a visual chart.

I tried to use the KST parameters, Standard deviation or ROC to get a similar result. I am not really good in that.

May be there are special parameters or formulas possible to get such a result.

Thanks for ideas and best regards,

Matt

If you wanted to put some work into it, you could do two MAs of different colors for each ratio. You would enter each ratio twice, using "behind indicator" for the second instance, then for the MA overlay, maybe 21:red and 63:green (or whatever). I haven't tried it, but the order in which the crossovers occur, and the distance between the MAs might give a clearer view of which ratio is leading. P.S. if you do that, it might be easier to see the MAs with "line" or "dashed" style than "area" - but that's an individual thing.

Some other professionals chartists use this:

http://www.tradesignalonline.com/en/lexicon/view.aspx?id=RSL:+Relative+Strength+(Levy)

My reccomendation is to implement this simple indicator in the "Overlay" function below a chart like ROC and KST are already there.

The problem with KST is the ROCs only for short (ST)and intermediate term(IT). The best would be a KST setting with more part ROCs for ST and IT which could equal the [Close / SMA(125)] and has the opportunity to take adjust Martins fix weighted factors x1 x2 x3 x4

A kind of special K with the opportunity to adjust the ROCs and factors would also great win win. May thats a easy adjustment for stockcharts.

Thanks for thinking about it. Other chart softwar plattforms improve the technology, they allow to program indicators easy or simple add the existing module below the chart without limitation (max 6 symbols below chart).

Best regards, Matt

If you want Stockcharts to add something to their site, you should contact them through the Support option on their menu.

I have no connection to Stockcharts except as a subscriber. This is a user site for mutual assistance and exchange of ideas. It is not read by Stockcharts staff.